I have a Versacamm VP540I. When I got it in October I printed out the Roland Pure Color chart. Now when I specify a roland color it prints a different shadeof the color. I have tried changing some of the color profiles in Illustrator, but that doesn't seem to change the color problem. I printed a JPG that was directly imported into versaworks and it printed fine. I imported the JPG into Illustrator, saved it as an EPS, then imported it into versaworks and printed it. The colors were off. This tells me its something with Illustrator??? Any Ideas?

Thank You,

Larry

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Greetings, Larry
I first like to say I am not an Illustrator user, but if your problem happened to me there is one place I would check - so you will have to translate that to your program. When the versacamm reads the JPG it knows that it is a raster and treats it accordingly when transferring it to CMYK. In Corel when I am exporting to EPS I insure that I have the box for objects sending the bitmap as RGB. This allows versacamm to make the necessary changes. When you convert it to CMYK in your program and the changes are made - versacamm still sees it as RGB and make the conversion - ergo a double conversion resulting in a washed out print. What I wrote above is assumming you have not changed the media and left all other variables the same. these are my thoughts and I am sticking to them - Steve you owe me a roll of media.

Irv
Good answer Irv! Your roll is ready for pickup at our shop ;-)
Larry,
Most likely your problem is related to color space issues. In Illustrator, if you take that RBG photo and save it as a CMYK space and then import into Versaworks, it will then be processed as a CMYK that should have been RGB and the colors will look washed out. The best answer is to leave everything that is RGB as an RGB and if you design with CMYK specific colors, then save those as CMYK. I cannot say that this will 100% fix the issue without seeing exactly how you are importing and then saving the file from illustrator. Any images you can post would be helpful in diagnosing your picture issue also.

Hope this helps!

~Steven
I still can't figure this out. I printed out the Roland Pure Color chart that was in the Versaworks media tab - color chips. I have Registered the Rolands color System Lirary in Illustrator by coping the Roland Color System file in Illustrator then open the swatch by going to window - swatch libray - and clicking on Roland Color System Library. The swatch then appears, but when I pick a roland color from there and print it in Illustrator it comes out a different color.
I have my settings as under edit color - settings - is custum.
Workig space RGB - Adobe RGB(1998)
CMYK - Us Web.
Color management profile
RGB - Preserve Embedded Profiles
CMYK - Preserve numbers (Ignore linked profile)
Under the Edit tab
The assign profile was - working CMYK usweb (swop)v2s ,
I changed it to Don't color manage this document.
I am using the same media in the versacamm and the same profiles in versaworks. The colors are still off. Any Ideas??
Thank you,
Larry
I TOO AM A COREL USER. BUT I IMPORTED THE ROLAND COLOR LIBARY INTO COREL. THE RESULT I GOT WAS BAD. THE COLORS WERE SPOTTY. SO I THEN USED THE ORGINAL COLOR SWATCH AND MANUAL ENTERED THE CYMK VALUES FROM THE ROLAND COLOR CHIP. THE COLOR SEEMS TO BE MUCH CLOSER, AND CLEANER!
I just printed the same colors in Corel as I did in Illustrator, they came out the same color but different that the Roland Color Chart. I used the same media and profile as I did printing the color chart out. I will try putting in the cmyk value and see what happens. Thanks Candy for your advice.
Larry
LET US KNOW IF THAT WORKS!
I tried putting the cmyk values in for some of the roland colors in Corel and Illustrator, again the colors came out the same in Corel and Illustrator, but different fron the Roland Color chart. I don't know what to try next.
Thanks,
Larry
Might be a bit late, but there is one important step you are missing out to make your colours match the Color chart. In Versaworks, under the File Format tab, you have to click "Convert spot colours: Then your roland colours will print what is on the color chart.

In regards to the JPG being imported into illustrator and printing differently, that has to do with your color space. If you have imported a JPG into a CMYK document, it will be processed as a CMYK image, therefore changing the colors. There is a Versaworks manual that says linking the files will stop this happening, but I cant seem to get it to work. If I create a RGB illy doc, then link an RBG file, then export as an EPS and make sure the Include CMYK Postscript in RGB files is unchecked, you will get exactly the same color as when you print the original JPG in Versaworks.

When I do the same process with a linked RGB from a CMYK doc, I get duller colors, even though the Versaworks help doc said using liked RGB files wont cause this to happen.

Anyway, hope this info helps in some way.
Chris great info - and I agree with all you state. I would just add that when you export or save as in Illy you must leave it as RGB or the colors will dull. What happens is that illy converts it as CMYK but VW still sees it as RGB and converts it so it is a double conversion ergo a dull reproductions.
I'm trying to follow this but having a little trouble. The File Format tab in VersaWorks offers the oprtions of adding jobs to Queues A and B. The Edit tab has an option for Spot Color Settings. However, I did not see an option for Convert Spot Colors. Can you clarify this for me?

Thanks
Dennis - wrong area. If you have a job loaded and then you go into the job settings, you will see in the file format area that there is a check box for convert spot colors. It will list the spot colors there also in the bigger box below it if there are any roland spot colors in the design. This does not include any cut colors or vdp data colors, just the spot colors.

I hope this helps!

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