We are using a VS-540 Versacamm. The boss and sales rep have obtained this magnetic material for us to print on (it clearly states it can be run through solvent printers). Has anyone used this before? More specifically, I would like some advice on which profile to use, recommended head height, and if I should used the media clamps.
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Permalink Reply by DanielTF3 on July 26, 2012 at 5:17pm I guess it would be like everyother media, however the print settings and heat settings may need to be adjusted. Usually the supplier of the media gives a small info sheet with media fact sheet which generally and SHOULD contain thickness of media, print settings etc.
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Permalink Reply by John H. on July 26, 2012 at 7:30pm I was going to try it also but decided to print on vinyl and apply it to the magnetic material, it voids the warranty and can damage the machine as in wearing down the feed rollers prematurely, a part that cannot be replaced. It can be done though, there are many discussions in the archives with the procedure for printing and cutting, just type in the search box in the upper right corner. not recommended by Roland.
Permalink Reply by Elizabeth Laws on July 27, 2012 at 9:59am I had tried searching... keep finding yeah, we don't do that or things that didn't pertain to our company's machine. Does it really void the warranty? According to the manual, the thickest material it will print on is 0.0393" or 1mm. Since the magnetic material says it is only .03" that doesn't seem like it would be the issue. The sales rep for the company we get our material through said this one would work fine. I was expecting that they would have gotten the 20 mil since we were told the thinner stuff would work better. However looking at the roll up front we got in the 30 mil again.
I have run into issues where using the wrong media type or profile makes big differences in the end quality, but I don't think that guess and print is the most effective way to address this. Think someone could point me towards where I can learn a little more about how to pick correct profiles?
Permalink Reply by Steven Jackson - Admin on July 31, 2012 at 7:04am it does void the warranty as the grit rollers will eventually smooth out from the metallic particles and that piece cannot be replaced in the field.
Profiles do not exist for this media as it is too thick to properly heat through while printing. You could use MCVP and get decent results but I must stress - I DO NOT RECOMMEND running magnetic material directly through your printer.
The VS and some other series printers have a steel brace in the back of the machine where earlier versions have an aluminum frame piece - this steel piece will cause the magnetic media to magnetize to it and will not allow for proper feeding.
Realize also that the stress from cutting magnetic media and also from feeding this heavy media can put undue stress on the feed motor and can cause it to fail as well
Again I stress that by running magnetic media through the machine you risk damage and will void the warranty.
Permalink Reply by John H. on July 27, 2012 at 10:51am Well I looked in the users manual, the updated version on On Support and the warranty handbook, and found no mention on the use of magnetic roll material voiding the warranty, That's what I remember from discussions on this forum in the past, I do know some do do it, some just cut and apply vinyl later and some print and cut? I do know that you have to cover the rear platten with a non metallic material such as cardboard but if it gets drawn into the machine it will damage it I'm sure, also it has to be feed into the machine as the weight of it may also damage or prematurely wear the machines components if it's pulled off the roll. The head has to be raised and all the settings have to be reset if your using 30 mill.
That's all I have time for now gotta get to work, hope it helps
Permalink Reply by Dennis Dunning on July 27, 2012 at 11:41am Can you use a surgeon's blade to whittle wood? Yes, but why would you do it? We have gotten better results printing on vinyl and applying the vinyl to magnetic material with a laminator. Furthmore, this approach avoids unnecessary wear and tear on a printer-cutter.
Permalink Reply by Elizabeth Laws on July 27, 2012 at 11:54am That would be a great idea if the company had a laminator. However, we don't. I think the boss might be thinking about getting one though. At this time applying the vinyl by hand to the magnetic material I think is more man hours and such potential for error that he doesn't feel that we could profit from doing it that way.
Permalink Reply by Butch on July 27, 2012 at 1:35pm Consider purchasing a Big Squeegee for applying the vinyl to the small jobs such as mags and cora signs.
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