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Rhinestones
Ok I was going to post that I am leaving this industry - but I talked myself off of the ledge. I have taken a new position where I think I will start pushing folks off of the ledge. So you are asking "Y".
I just attended Roland Webinar on GX24 and Rwearstudio. This is my second webinar on Rhinestones - the first being Total Graphic Network. After attending the 1st I seen that doing stones manually is not the way to go so I purchased the Ioline Crystal Press - a good 6k plus. My life has now lost and will never recapture - the 2 hours in seminars, the countless hours in doing stones manually, the 6k plus for the IO-CP and all the hours wasted on that beta machine. How bad is the CP - they are now demoing CO-II at Orlando and that is less than a year since I brought my machine. They knew it was crap when they brought it to market. They had me do a 1 on 1 with a trainer and after 15 minutes he had to contact them and get back to me. I have been waiting 9 months. So let's' get to today - yes - I am skipping Total Graphics Network - because I refuse to waste anymore of my life on them.
Today - Ok I should know by now that webinars are sales pitches - I should - but I was really, really hoping that I was going to be able to wow! - But no - I am saying Whoa! I could have sworn it was a Rwearstudio webinar. The presenter was Dana Curtis. For those not familiar with him, he is like a guru at roland and I have taken both beginners and advance roland classes with him. A great instructor and very open to dialogue. We lean on him with many of your issues and he is the color management guru - I am trying to mention no other names here. To not make this post to long - lets just say this. If you want to get into stoning, then you better see what your process can do from design to press before you invest. I failed miserably more than once at this. You will never see any of them brush the stones into those templates. Why that is the difficult part. To do a demostration and push one product, while you are using a product from a totally different place - that is unacceptable - but done often. No weeding tools, No equipment to mount the template, No stones to sweep, but why are we doing this again.
I am just saying this, no matter what you want to do in this industry - you get yourself a good file - whether stitches, vector art, or a raster image. You take that to whoever you are considering to do business with and say "here is what I want done - let me see your equipment make it happen - in front of me." At the shows - people are pushing stuff that was not done by the machines they are selling or cannot be reproduce without other variables being brought into play.
So while some of you think I am complaining about wasting my time today, no I am not for here is the saving grace. Being a GX 24 user for over 2 years - I learned some things about it that I did not know it can do. Thank You.
PM me for any further details.
I am not tagging this post because I do not want to make it too easy to find. If anyone want to learn how to find things whether you are a member or not - next time you SEE me and we have a computer just ask.
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Permalink Reply by Kathy MacMannis on -
Whoaaaaaaaa Irv, I can feel the steam coming from here friend ;-) I don't want you to stroke out or anything!! When you were here wish I had shown you how easy the rhinestones really are. Of course I'm using smart cut pro and the DAS system, none of that junk from the above mentioned site. Brushing rhinestones in the templates is something that a 5 year old can do so long as you have calibrated the size hole to the machine and stone size you are using. Once that is done and you remember to write down those numbers the rest is easy. In fact I held a small birthday party here for a customer's child and we did just that. Before they came I made up the templates for each of their names, and had several stock stencil designs available. Each child then got to choose the color stones they wanted and which stock design they wanted for their tee-shirt. They brushed the stones in the templates with little to no effort. I did have to help some with the transfer tape, because of the static issue here, but it' wasn't a big deal. They then heat pressed them on. Huge hit. Took me about 20 minutes of prep time to create the name templates. Charged them $25 per child. I did lie though... these were actually 7 year olds. :-)
Kathy
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Permalink Reply by irving donaldson on -
Well the next time I am by you, you can show me while I am repairing or servicing whatever got me there in the first place. You made me wish I was 7 again since it was so easy for that age group. On another forum, they tested about three solutions and 1 person mentioned that out of all of them DAS was the easiest. So from now on, this very minute, before I ever go into another venture I will consult you. It would have been cheaper to take the 6k and by the stone transfers as I needed them.
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Permalink Reply by Kathy MacMannis on
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Irv, I've got my share of horror shows friend and have made some not brilliant moves along the way, none of which will be discussed in public or at least without a fair amount of alcohol involved! You are always welcome here but I will bow to your expertise any day of the week!!
Kathy
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Permalink Reply by irving donaldson on
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Nope - been to your place - you do pretty things - lots of pretty things - nothing but mutual respect here. What a slow day for post - I have no one to help. I better go do some work.
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Permalink Reply by Kathy MacMannis on
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Ok friend just to make you feel wanted and loved answer me this...... when I watched the quickprint video from IW, why does their vs300 printer head only travel to the area that it needs to print, print and then return back??? In other words my print head if I'm only printing a 6 inch wide area travels all the way over to the far left side and then all the way back?? Hmmmmmm?????
video http://www.youtube.com/user/Imprintablesdotcom#p/u/6/FGTeuWFrbEo
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Permalink Reply by irving donaldson on
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Had to meet a client - back - yes I do work. No need to see a video, that is an option that you can set. The way yours is set-up is optimum, the other way is for efficiency. Difference the other way will provide faster results but the prints are not as dry. Drying times are calculated on the printhead traveling to the end of the carriage, not media end. Think about it this way - just like if you do not want to wait for your machine to heat up you can hit the pause button and it will print right away - so no waiting - if it is going to hand there and dry - no harm done (sorta). If you want it the other way - jsut say and I will post it - no secret - in the manual.
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Permalink Reply by Kathy MacMannis on
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See this is exactly why you are the guru, and best of all I totally understand what you are talking about!!! I will leave my machine just as you set it oh great one ;-)
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Permalink Reply by CYW on -
Irv, my friend has the Ioline system and she really, really likes it.
She did have a few issues at first but she leaned on Russ and Jim and got it all worked out.
She just recently upgraded to their new system with a couple of pods.
Honestly, when I'm over by her, she must do 100's and 100's of rhinestone transfers a week.
Before she got the Ioline system, she had a Roland, and had to brush those rhinestones into the templates.
She's so glad she switched...............and even with the few initial bumps in the road, she said she's never looked back.
It's a whole different world pressing a button rather than standing there manually filling holes.
She can embroider or heat press or do paperwork or whatever while all the templates are doing their "thing". Just like we can multitask while our VC's are printing.
I'm just saying..........
I just told you this story so you wouldn't give up.
Heck if you spent all that money, get it to work!
It isn't a crappy system, it really does work very well.
Get on the phone with Ioline and get it up and running!
Same thing you'd tell us if our printers were acting funky, right?
Diane
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Permalink Reply by irving donaldson on
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Pouting, shucks, a lil dose of my own medicine. Maybe I am doing to many installs. I need more IO time. I am grabbing myself by the seat of my pants, currently doing violent shake, and will relook this problem as soon as I get back from Barbados on Sunday. Lady Di -are she doing single size little easy things or multiple complicated stuff? 2 - does she have a good stone source or does she uses IO stones (pricey)? Maybe my things were too complicated - but if I was going to do easy things then I could have stayed with the sweep procedure. Thanks.
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Permalink Reply by Kathy MacMannis on
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Irv, try the following for rhinestones and rhinestuds http://www.novarhinestone.com/ I purchase the korean rhinestones. Just so happens to be the same place that a certain company with the initials DAS buys from. :-)
Kathy
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Permalink Reply by William Desrochers on -
I stick to the go ole brush the stones in the template routine. I can output more RTA motifs in an hour than the CP can do....
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Permalink Reply by Kathy MacMannis on
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I totally agree but what are RTA motifs ?
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