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Imprint size and garment size
Does anyone print designs for the back of shirts or jackets at a different size depending on the garment size that is going to be imprinted? Doing so should produce a design that looks more proportional with garment size. In addition, this would help distinguish imprinters from screeners because screeners would have to create a different screen or set of screens for each size design (which most are unwilling to do unless they get paid extra for each screen). Sizing designs for garment size is relative easy for imprinters and varying design size for garment size should be something imprinters can use to distinguish themselves from screeners. If anyone is varying imprint size with garment size, what size imprint are you using for the back of each garment size and do you charge a different price for each size?
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Permalink Reply by Steven Jackson on -
I will adjust the size depending on if it is a youth or adult but other than that, not usually. Sometimes if we have a 3xl or similar we will go bigger on the print or it will just look way too small but the customer will have to agree to a price upcharge before we do that.
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Dunning on -
Vicki and I were debating this issue and your reply supports Vicki's position. I can understand printing or cutting one size back if it is a name, number, or both for team jerseys; its for consistency and its traditional. NFL uniforms are like that and it makes me chuckle when I see numbers, that look fine on big lineman, nearly wrap around smaller players. That being said, it seems to me that printing backs that are scaled to the size of the adult garment being imprinted is a relatively simple and painless thing to do (you simply save more than one eps file. Furthermore, as noted in my initial post, it seems as though it would allow imprinters to further distinguish themselves from screeners. As you noted in a forum topic on banners, on-line banner sites offer fixed-dimension banners whereas you offer clients a wider variety of sizes and better service. The one disadvantage that I see is that the price may vary depending on shirt size, if it is based on the amount of material being used. Has that been a significant issue in your shop?
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Permalink Reply by John Brehm on -
I do it the same way as Steve.
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Permalink Reply by Butch Humphrey on
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I too do the same as Steve. When I do multiple size garments I design my art to fit the smallest size I am doing. You can usually place a 12" wide transfer on the back of a youth small and still look good on an xl. 2x and above will look a little odd but the main thing is cost and production. If you change sizes of transfers for garment sizes it would take considerable time and alot of checking to make sure the right transfer was being applied to the right garment. In everything you do, TIME IS MONEY and PROFIT IS THE BOTTOM LINE !
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Permalink Reply by irving donaldson on -
Dennis I think you are out numbered. Different sizes required additional work - additional work equal additional charges. I ususally base every design on a 12x12. if the roll goes to 13 in then I might throw that in for my good customers. If they want larger then I go larger along with my price. If I do smaller as in childs to match the adult - then I might split the media so as to get two in the size of one adult - then no design change not the full adult price but about 2/3s - but remember I am in the city. A lot of folks want big and I say yes we can but here is the price and suddenly the 12x12 looks about the right size to them.
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Permalink Reply by John on -
I definitely agree with the more artwork sizes the more work. More time at the computer adjusting, more time at the rip software and more time sorting garment sizes. I too only do different sizes for youth, adult or 3XL.
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Permalink Reply by irving donaldson on
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I see a lot of folks talking to the 3x size garments - well in the city I have recently done family reunion shirts for 6x size - they did not want to pay extra and since our shirts sell the same regardless of size - i had no problem putting the full shirt logo as a left chest logo on the 6x. have a great day.
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Dunning on
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OK, OK. Vicki wins. We're doing one size back (12 inches) on M-2XL shirts.
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Permalink Reply by Ken Wagner on -
We adjust for youth sizes and large adult 3XL and up. If doing team shirts we would leave the names the same size no matter the size of shirt. Normally we charge extra for 2XL and larger shirts since they do cost more but we don't charge for sizing the design. It really doesn't take much time to change the size in Versaworks and material usages is minimal so no additional charges for the imprint.
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Permalink Reply by irving donaldson on
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Ok the last point I have on this - is when I get the order - I look at the smallest size shirt and then suggest size to customer.
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Permalink Reply by Kevin Hirata on -
Dennis,
We do a fair amount of screen printing, and we will only screen one size for youth shirts, and another for adult sizes up to 2XL. Anything above 2XL is an up charge, if the customer wants to pay for it.
In talking to a screen printer who used to be a firefighter/paramedic, he said that while most larger sized people are wide across the chest, most of their girth is taken up by their width (front to back). He made this observation after having to place EKG leads on victims' chests. He said that the spacing of the leads were basically the same regardless of the size of the person. Maybe Steve or Jen can comment on this. So while a design on a large shirt may appear small while it's laying flat, when it's being worn by a person it will basically cover the same amount of chest area, and it really won't look too small.
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Permalink Reply by Dennis Dunning on
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That is a very interesting observation. Thank you for sharing it with me.
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