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Help With Pricing Shirts for A Baseball League
We have the opportunity to quote the uniforms for our local youth baseball league with over 650 kids. I need some advise on which way and pricing on their shirts. On the shirts there will be team name on the front and number on the back. I have priced plastisol lettering & numbers and it runs roughly $ 2.18 per shirt (Name 11" x 6" base color with outline, number 6" x 4" same base color with outline). I figure quick print will cost me about $ 3.00 per square foot ( $ 2.00 quick print, $.70 TTD mask & $.30 ink) not including labor to weed and mask. Both plastisol and quick print should take about the same application time.
Anyone had any experience on doing a job this large using quick print? We are on our 2nd roll of quick print and love the results we get with it and our versacamm. This big a job makes me nervous and I sure could use some guidance. Shirts will run us about $ 2.15 each, so your looking at $ 4.33 - 5.15 cost before labor and profit. I am guessing in the mid $ 7.00 range on price. I have figured it takes $ 60.00 per hour shop rate to pay the bills.
What advise can you'll give me on what product to use- plastisol, quick print or something else and pricing suggestions?
Thanks
Larry
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Permalink Reply by CYW on -
No doubt about it, in my mind, Larry.
Plastisol transfers and plastisol numbers for sure.
Sports leagues and sport organizations/teams comprises the majority of our business.
We've been doing them for over 20 years.
650 pieces is far too many to devote all the time & labor necessary to do this with our VC machines.
The price you quoted for plastisol transfers sounded a little high. How many individual teams? Can't you gang them to help reduce the cost?
Diane
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Permalink Reply by Larry Turner on -
Diane
There are 14 teams that are using MLB names, they range from 20 per team on the low end to 100 per team on the high end. I have a quote from one plastisol company for names 2 color 11" x 5" at $ 1.44 each and I figure 6" numbers 2 color to be $. 37 each so that equals the $ 2.18 for transfers. Right now I get gildan 2000 from imprints at like $ 2.43 per shirt (free shipping) and I am waiting on a quote from them on 1000 shirts to see if that helps. I am sure when I get to hard numbers I can get the transfers ganged to help out. My thought is use that savings as an added bonus, if you will.
Any thoughts where to be a price here? Have you got your new laminator yet??????
Thanks
Larry
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Permalink Reply by Butch on
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Larry, I just ordered Gildan 2000 from TSC Apparel for 2.15 with free shipping over $200 they have warehouses all over the country
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Permalink Reply by CYW on
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Don't mean to hijack your thread, Larry, but yes, it's here....still all boxed up until somebody shows up to help me move it. ohmygod.
Should have been here yesterday, but the delivery truck had major issues navigating the roads around here.
(I didn't sleep all night)
I'm thinking if you can gang, you'll save yourself some money.
Even if it didn't save any money, the thing is, before you dismiss the transfers, think long and hard if you really want to print/weed and mask all those pieces.
Last year, for a smaller baseball project (Fall Ball) that only has about 400 kids, I decided to cheap-out. I still had plenty of transfers left from the year before. So I thought I'd use up my stock and just print out whatever extra I needed from regular vinyl. They only do one color Minor league team names for Fall Ball.
Well, I have to tell you, about halfway through I was ready to scream! If I had to weed one more Mudcat or RiverDog, I was going to seriously lose my mind.
(BTW....I usually don't mind weeding a bit....maybe it was the repetition.)
Anyway, weeding is one thing, but because this was regular old cad-cut vinyl, I didn't even have to mask anything.
Maybe you've got a much stronger constitution than me, but I'm really, really thinking you're going to have a lot of labor time logged in. We like to get $60+ an hour too. But, IMHO, the prep time is going to be a killer.
It's like driving to Florida.
I live in Jersey.
Last time we drove, by the time we got to Virginia I was a screaming, sore to the bone, maniac.
All I could think of was I could have already been in Florida safe and snug.........and even unpacked.
But no, I was still in flippin' Virginia!
Sort of the same thing with the baseball tees I think.
In the middle of masking and weeding, you might be wishing you had done wham, bamm, transfer ma'am.
No muss, No fuss.
How come you want to use the VC?
You're not making something other than 2 color designs, are you?
Around here, the regular LL's buy Majestic replicas now.....I'll add numbers or sponsor names or last names but don't print the fronts anymore.
But even with the replicas, they still want the shirts dirt cheap.
Those replicas cost me a small fortune.
Whatever I can do to lessen my labor time and still give them a reasonable price, the better.
...........ahhh, someones here!!!
I'll let you know how the setup goes.
Wish me luck
Please?
omg
Diane
Diane
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Permalink Reply by Ken Wagner on -
Wow, that's a lot of kids. I live in a more rural area and 200 kids would be a lot. Never used plastisol yet but I guess I'll have to check into it before the coming season. We did soccer shirts last year using HTM2 with numbers on the back and the league logo on the fronts. I know we didn't get rich on the job with the labor of weeding eating into any profit margin. I'll have to check on what we charged per shirt but I'm sure it was no more than $7.00 or so.
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